You know how sometimes you into a movie with a certain expectation of what you’re going to see? You’ve seen the trailers and they’re cut a certain way giving you the impression that a movie is going in one direction and then you go to see it and it turns out to so much more. Well that’s what happened with me when I watch Joseph Gordon-Levitt’s new movie “Don Jon”. (In theaters everywhere Friday, September 27th)
The movie starts out much like the trailers depict. Jon Martello (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) is that stereotypical Jersey Shore club kid who loves his ride, his boys, his family and pulling girls…lots of girls and of course his porn…lots of porn but that all changes the night he meets Barbara (Scarlett Johansson) out at a club with his boys. She starts to mold him into the guy she’d like him to be by getting him to lose the porn and go back to school. But Jon loves his porn, really loves his porn so eventually you know this has to blow up in his face. Living in a media driven culture where love and relationships are measured by the guy getting the girl in a romantic comedy or the exotic fantasies played out through online porn, Jon and Barbara struggle to find a true balance in their relationship.
This is where the movie makes an unexpected turn. There’s a surprising amount of layers and depth to not only the story but with Jon as well. A chance encounter with fellow night school classmate Esther (Julianne Moore) is the turning point for this character and you slowly see another side to him that he himself was unaware even existed.
This movie has a lot of heart and soul to it and hidden depth that draws you in unexpectedly. Recently I had the chance to chat with the cast about the movie.
How do you feel the film comments on youth and relationships and sex in comparison to the sort of classic 80’s youth films?
Well it’s a movie about how we can sometimes have unrealistic expectations of each other and how media can contribute to that. Personally working in the media, working as an actor in TV and movies my whole life and especially in the last few years I’ve been hearing it a lot when people say oh I wish that my life was like it was in that movie or I wish that I had someone like you in that movie and when I hear that frankly I get a little startled sometimes because real life is not as simple as it is on screen. I think real life is a lot more beautiful. There’s a lot more details and nuances that you could never possibly capture in a movie or on a TV show or in a pornography clip or in a commercial or in a pop song. So we kind of wanted to poke fun at comparing your real life to these expectations.
Joe obviously you wrote this film and the bigger picture is that it’s about addiction. What was your research when you were writing this movie, how you became inspired to write it?
I think I was largely responding to the way that people seem to be reacting to all kinds of media and I thought a story about a young man who watches too much pornography and a woman who watches too many romantic Hollywood movies would be a good way to sort of bring to light the way we all sort of relate to all kinds of media. Weather it’s pornography or a commercial about a hamburger, you see a woman on a screen and you just reduce her to a thing a sex object and that’s something I’ve been aware of really my whole life. My mom was always intent on making me aware of how that a very common thing that happens in media. You know my mom was very active in the 60’s and 70’s in the feminist movement and she was always really keen to make my brother and me aware of this happening so it’s something I’ve always thought of.
So it’s like an homage to your mom.
Uh yeah! In a lot of ways it is, it’s me writing a comedy about a lot of the wisdom that she wanted to instill me with and she really loves the movie actually. She was one of the first ones to read the script and it’s been great getting to talk to her about it.
Was it always a comedy or was there a darker version of it?
Well the original idea in broad strokes I didn’t know it was going to be a comedy and I was trying to figure out how it would be and I hadn’t landed on anything that I liked until I was actually working on 50/50 and I’m up there in Vancouver with Seth Rogan and his whole gang. I really like the movies that he makes I mean 50/50 is sort of it’s a comedy but it’s a character-based comedy. When I was in the middle of that I was like oh what if I approach this concept with this tone and that’s when it really took off in my mind and I really started writing it.
This one’s for Tony. You and Joseph worked together for what seems like a lifetime ago…
Oh right for him…
For him lol he was just a kid in Angel’s in the Outfield. What’s it like now so many years later and he’s basically running the show as writer, director, actor and it’s his company behind it (HitRECord Films). What was the experience like for both of you?
He gave me the job! It’s starts from there. You know I’ve always had a paternalistic thing for Joe who was 12 when we worked together. Even then you could see that he was not only a talented kid but he was driven. He used to say he wanted to follow the director instead of hang out with me, which is a crazy thing.
We hung out!
I know, I know. I’m just kidding. But I took a lot of pride, I felt great for him because I knew this was important and I’ve said this and I don’t wanna just kiss his ass in public but I think the writing is really the thing that stands out. He’s a very good director he’s a very strong hand, a very clear vision. It’ makes it makes it very easy for you. Everybody’s having fun. But the writing’s very strong and very easy. I said to him and I hate to say this but I said, “You wrote this?” when I got it. I’m just thrilled to be part of it.
Barbara and Jon are extreme gender stereotypes of what a guy and a girl should be like. Do you think that Barbara’s distaste and distain plays into it. Is that part of it or is it more that girls think guys watching porn is gross or girls shouldn’t be watching porn or was that just a function of her character?
I mean I think girls watch porn, probably watch more porn than guys! We talked about this a little bit but I think the main problem Barbara has is that she’s being lied to. I think if they had a conversation about it or whatever she would be more accepting of well obviously not his addiction but she would just think oh that gross or whatever and maybe should could have had her opinion changed or her mind expanded I don’t know. But the problem is really that he’s lying to her it’s not that she’s so against porn, that’s not what devastates her it’s just the fact that he’s someone that she didn’t know, didn’t expect that she was so totally shocked by it or didn’t want to see. For her it’s like her boyfriend has another family up the block that she never knew about! He suddenly appears to be a totally different person that she wanted to see or imagine. But I think girls do watch porn. I don’t think that’s the point you were trying to make, to get across that porn is gross…(directed at Joseph)
No and I don’t think that either Jon or Barbara are meant to be all girls are this way and all boys are this way. These are two examples of characters that like you said are really intent on fitting into dominant ideas, conventional ideas. The character that Julianne plays, Esther, is an example of someone who is very much her own person.
Which is why I liked it. I thought upon reading the script that the great thing about Esther is due to her circumstances she’s someone who can’t be anything less than 100% authentic which is a hard thing to be but because of where she is she doesn’t have the energy or the strength for anything else so she’s literally is going from moment to moment. Joe wrote her in contrast to these other characters who are very much trying to have their behavior described by a gym culture, by a club culture, by a romantic comedy culture, a porn culture, a religious one. There are all these things we set up we think they’re guidelines but they can be they can entrap you.
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DON JON is in theaters everywhere Friday, September 27th.