Being Human Cast Has Scary Fun Time Talking Season Two!


In honor of the manner in which Syfy’s Being Human [Mondays, /89C] is departing from the Being Human UK map and striking of on its own, Stars Sam Huntington, Sam Witwer and Meaghan Rath took part in a conference call with a number of reporters/bloggers.

As with last season’s call, the unique chemistry the three share came through clearly – as did their somewhat off-center sense of humor. It short, everyone who took parts – at either end of the connection – had a lot of fun. Despite the ‘technical difficulties’ that caused a bit of a delay, the Q&A remains relevant because the trio didn’t just talk about second season premiere. Enjoy.

Hi guys, thanks so much for doing the call today. I wanted to ask you guys just I know if you could just talk a little bit about what it’s been like to film season two and maybe touch upon some of the bigger things people see happening with, like you guys to go back to the set for season two and how it’s different to play these characters in the second season.

Bill Brennan, Syfy: Sam you want to start?

Huntington: Sure I mean yeah, like listen, we were all, we loved the show so much, I think I can speak for all of us when I say that and so we were all really, really excited to get back.

And you know the funny thing is I personally expected it to feel a lot like just one giant bout of déjà vu and to be honest, like it really just felt as though we never had the hiatus. It just felt like – because it was all the same crew and a lot of the same cast and we – it just felt like we had maybe a two day break and then we just rolled into season two, it was bizarre. But at the same time it was great because I felt like we were able to really just pick up right where we left off which was a really cool spot. So yeah, anyway, like that.

Sam Witwer: Yeah it was – we’re definitely – I guess I didn’t expect it to be – I mean okay there’s me and Sammy and Meaghan and we bonded I think all the way back during our first audition together. But I guess you know you go away, we were so exhausted after the first season, I for months afterwards even the thought of doing season two would make me sleepy. And by – when we got back I guess I hadn’t expected to be as happy to see everyone as I was. The crew and all the directors and everyone and that kind of carried for me that carried me through the season.

I never felt like there was – I wasn’t as exhausted this year, there was something about having a successful season one behind us and knowing the characters and having that momentum that was really positive this year.

Meaghan Rath: Yeah, and I think it was just script wise it was a lot easier to just fall back into it this year because there was no establishing who our characters were and what our circumstances were, we just jumped right into it. And that’s reflective of the first episode, we just get right into the story immediately which was really great.

Witwer: Absolutely, and you know in the first season there was so much heavy lifting on everyone’s part to establish these characters and to try to – try and make this all work and now we had a – some – what do you guys think, I think we had a little bit of competence going on this time.

Rath: Yeah.

Huntington: So much more, there was so much uncertainty in season one, it’s like imagine like any television show, your season one is you’re kind of like biting your fingernails the whole time just saying to yourself God I hope people like this and I hope people watch this.

Witwer: Right and you’re second guessing yourself.

What about a story line, you know what’s coming up, how season two felt different and just like the stories you’re getting to tell?

Witwer: It’s extremely different, it’s very, very different. It’s – if season one was about putting these people who are at risk into a safe environment, well season two is all about what is that risk about? And I think it’s inevitable with these people and their adversities, you know specific risks that they have in terms of you know vampire, werewolf and ghost, what do those conditions mean.

And basically what it means is these people are in trouble and we’re going to see a lot of that trouble this year. We’re going to see why they need so badly to have a sanctuary because things get a little bit darker this year.

I was wondering, it seems like your characters this season are sort of tempted by the darker parts of their natures. And are put in situations where that comes out. I was wondering how you maintain sort of their humanity when playing the dark parts and what kind of challenges there are in doing that.

Witwer: Well Sam – Meg go for it.

Rath: I was going to say I mean it’s – I think for me it’s important to keep in mind that these are real people and not to get sucked into the supernatural element of the whole thing. What makes the show different is that we’re playing into the supernatural stereotypes, we are trying to play these as regular people.

So for me it’s a lot about just keeping in mind what I would do in this kind of situation and what’s great about the show is that it’s really acting, what would you do if you were put in this situation. And so I think that’s where the humanity comes from, just being a good person and being with these challenges that sort of question your morality and your values.

Witwer: Yeah I think Meaghan is absolutely right with that. For example in television we’ve kind of seen everything including vampires, werewolves and ghosts and we’ve seen people get killed and all kinds of crazy stuff.

What we’re trying to do as three actors is we’re trying to bring as much humanity into those events as possible. For example if someone dies, we’re going to show you – hopefully we’re going to tell a story where you realize that that is an awful sacrifice or that something has happened that is really, really terrible.

It’s all about the character’s reactions and you know I mean these three characters are the eyes through which the audience watches the show. So we’re really trying to keep our reactions to all this giant supernatural stuff very grounded. And in terms of the dark stuff that comes up, I mean the messed up thing is that at first you’ll see our characters react with horror and shame and all this awful stuff. And then as time goes on you might see them kind of get used to it and that hopefully will be a very sad thing to watch.

Huntington: Yeah, I think you just kind of hit the nail on the head. I mean a lot of times on the show I can say I think the characters are almost seeing these horrible things happen for the first time, so they’re almost like the audience. You know they’re viewing these things and so hopefully you know that’s what the audience can kind of grasp on to and also it helps as an actor it helps in form what you do.

Because you’re like okay well what if this person was killed, what would the ramifications, what emotionally what would that mean to me and how would that affect me and how would that affect every aspect of my life. And so it’s cool. You know it sets the show aside, we don’t just roll over these issues, we actually tackle them.


All right, thanks, and then Sam Witwer I was going to ask you if you – what did you do or what did you experience growing up in the Chicago area that prepared you to live the life of an undead vampire?

Huntington: It was the pizza, is that…?

Witwer: Yeah, I ate a lot of Chicago pizza. I hid out in my basement with my band so I didn’t see the light a lot. There it is. You know everyone wonders why the hell he’s so pale, well it’s because I’ve been training myself to be this pale.

Huntington: You literally can’t get a tan now.

Witwer: No, I can’t. I think I’ve lost the ability. Yeah, my skin has lost the ability to create melanin. No, it’s actually – I actually am telling a little bit of the truth in that me and my friends were all night people. And we wouldn’t wake up if we didn’t have to for school or something we wouldn’t wake up till noon or one. And we all knew, don’t call your buddy before noon, that’s not – that’s rude, that’s not cool. So there’s my vampire training right there.

Huntington: And you’re still kind of like that when you’re not working, you know what I mean? Like I’m afraid to call you.

Rath: Still hiding out in your parent’s basement.

Witwer: Yep.

Well basically I mean I think one of the things that we all know about this show is that you guys as actors and as the characters you portray have these really likeable chemistry and it’s a very believable thing because you know you guys actually seem to get along with one another.

So from season one to season two and this is sort of expanding on what a previous caller asked, how are you guys interacting differently as actors on set? Do you trust each other more, do you seek out advice from one another about how to deal with a scene? Do you feel more comfortable to bite and push back? How has your chemistry kind of changed as actors this sophomore year?

Rath: I do not do a scene without first consulting Sam Witwer. He coaches me.

Witwer: It’s true. And I give her the okay whether she should do it or not and sometimes she shouldn’t do it. I’m like look.

Rath: Often it’s just don’t do it.

Huntington: Those are horrible (unintelligible).

Witwer: You have to march right back to the producers and tell them you’re not doing this.

Huntington: Yeah it’s miserable. And I’m on the outside looking in, I’m just like – and I’m just sitting there in my trailer waiting it out, you know what I mean?

Witwer: Yeah well it’s kind of fun because Meaghan has almost gotten fired several times because of things that I told her to do.

Huntington: Exactly. And the weird thing is she’s so loyal to Witwer that she won’t start, like no, there’s this guy who’s telling me not to do this.

Witwer: Yeah, it’s a little – me and Meaghan have this relationship where it’s a little bit like the bond between kidnapper and victim.

Huntington: Yes.

Witwer: It’s a little bit like that.

Huntington: Brainwashed.

Rath: I have Stockholm Syndrome.

Witwer: So if this is partially answering your question like we really like hanging out. We really do and this year the three characters they get split up a little bit and they go off on their own little journeys and for us that just made us appreciate every time that we had a scene together all the more.

And you know I think we have – I think there’s like one or two scenes with us at least in every episode with all three of us. But I think our favorite episode to shoot was this episode that’s coming up down the line. Where we’re in every scene together throughout the whole episode. That was kind of, for us it was like oh this is the way to do it, this is the way to do the show. Who needs other actors?

Huntington: Yeah, it’s what the show is about and you know to be honest like we had – we were comfortable with each other instantly on set. Our relationship in that regard hasn’t changed. I feel like we like pretty much learned who each other were you know by half way through the first season, not even and have you know – our friendship has grown and built and everything. But we have so much trust and faith in one another and like I just know, like we just know when we’re in a scene with one another, it’s going to work and there’s going to be that shorthand and it’s going to be fun and it’s going to be loose and it’s going to be natural.

So you just have that confidence going into it and then in all seriousness like I think we also – I can speak for myself anyway – when I have a question or if I have a concern or if I you know am struggling with a piece of motivation I always ask Sam or Meaghan what they think. And because I respect and love them so much and trust them so much so it really is truly as lame as that sounds it’s kind of true and also very – I feel very fortunate to have that relationship with them.


Witwer: I think something that’s really cool about our relationship is this thing with me and Sammy and Meaghan is that both of those actors can do a whole bunch of stuff that I can’t.

And I think that’s really awesome. Like there’s not a lot of overlap in terms of personality and ability so we all have our own turf with which we have to play with but at the same time I love watching an episode and seeing what they’re doing. Because it’s like wow, look at all the stuff that they’re bringing that I frankly don’t know how to do. I love watching them and then stealing from them when I can.

Rath: Yah, I mean I think the best thing about it is that the trust level has gone up so much and for me these two guys are the people I trust most on set and you always feel like in scenes you’re in good hands. Like you’re never questioning the direction the scene is supposed to go in because it just always works every time we’re together. We just are able to feed off each other in a way that I’ve never experienced before.

Huntington: There’s a scene in episode one, it’s actually online right now, it’s the scene that they teased, the scene in the kitchen where Kristen comes down and she’s like you know I pulled this you know high school reunion invitation out the trashcan and Meaghan’s very funny, Kristen’s very funny.

Anyway when we – obviously it’s episode one so you get the set and you know we’re shooting that scene I’m like God is this – is it – like I couldn’t tell what I was doing, like it was still so fresh in the process of season two and we were like getting back into it. And I was like man I really – this feels good but I really hope it’s working and then you see that scene and it just – I personally think it’s fantastic. Like it just nails the relationship, it picks back up exactly where it left off. And I was just so happy to see that.

Witwer: And also Kristen Hager is just wonderful this season, she’s so great. She is such a talented actress and we – and it should be noted we feel tremendously bonded to Kristen as well.

You know she’s one of us and is really awesome when we see someone that we’ve worked with for so long and that we bonded with come to set, it’s like oh it’s her, it’s Kristen. You know she’s there a lot so that’s good.

Huntington: Yep.

Well I got to say that the first two episodes that I’ve seen look really good and it’s great to have you guys back and hopefully we’ll see you in New York at some point.

Rath: Thanks.

Huntington: Well they’re talking about that digital – Syfy digital press tour thing, I don’t know if that’s actually going to – or the Syfy (unintelligible) I think. Yeah, I don’t know.

Rath: I heard that.

Thanks for doing this. And also to Sammy I read your tweet, congratulations to you and your wife.

Huntington: Thank you. Thank you so much.

Witwer: What was the tweet Sam?

Huntington: Oh I just told everybody that Rachel’s pregnant.

Witwer: Rachel’s pregnant?

Huntington: Yeah, I know dude, she has been for like eight months now.

Witwer: Are you serious? I thought she was just fat.

Huntington: I know dude, I know, she’s gigantic.

Witwer: Whoa, okay so she wasn’t – so that wasn’t – because I was really – that was awkward, I’m like should someone say something, does she need to pick a job?

Huntington: And it’s unhealthy belly weight too, you know?

Witwer: Well you… what it is, it’s the way that dudes gain weight, just right in the gut.

Huntington: Yep. Granted she has been drinking lots of beer lately.

Witwer: Well she’s an alcoholic.

Huntington: Yeah, it’s a problem. Yeah, my first – the first tweet of that round was my favorite one which was just like basically like guys, I need to tell you something before you find out through one of our mutual friends, I’m pregnant. I just let that one sit for a little while. I love Twitter.

Witwer: You know and I’m sure the press is loving us right now, what was the question?

Huntington: There aren’t any questions.

Ruby: Although I will say you need to get on Twitter but anyway I was going to ask is there any – for all of you is there like a specific scene or moment or something that is going to happen this season that you’re kind of really excited to see the fan’s reaction to?

Witwer: Totally. Oh my God yeah.

Rath: Yeah, I’m sorry, we couldn’t even start about it right now because we would be fired. But there are huge moments for each of us this season that happen sort of mid way through for – yeah for all of us. I don’t want to say too much, Bill’s going to kill me. But there’s definitely a lot to look forward to, some really shocking things happening.

Witwer: Yeah, definitely.

Huntington: Shocking is the right word. Definitely.

Witwer: Yeah. I’m still shocked. I’m a state of deep shock even right now.

Huntington: You sound shocked.

Sam Witwer: I’m shocked. Oh my God.


Well is there anything maybe that was really challenging this year, specifically that you could talk about or is that all?

Witwer: I tell you, Sammy there was right?

Huntington: Well yeah, I mean you know for me like I think we all have very, very – I mean like that’s what’s cool about the job to be honest is you’re challenged every day you go to set. You know you’re always challenged by this wonderful material, this material that you know makes you really, really think. And you know it forces you to just basically become a better actor. I had several moments this year that you know where I got to places emotionally that I’d never gotten to before on a set.

And so I’m – you know you asked if there are moments that we’re excited about, yeah, those are some of the moments, you know the moments that are emotional and big and it’s crazy, it’s what’s so cool about the show.


Rath: I’m sorry, for me there was like – there was every single day I felt like I was being pushed by the writers and the creators just for what they had planned for me. And it was – I have the feeling so often where I came to set and I’m looking at the scenes and I’m like – how – I don’t know how I’m going to do this, you know when I read the script.

I don’t know what I’m going to do and I think that is where you really grow as an actor, when you’re scared. And there was definitely a lot of that this season.

Huntington: Yeah and also there’s a lot – like you don’t want to let them down. You know they’ve given you this material and you don’t want to let them down, you want to do it justice.

Witwer: Yeah, the real challenge I think this year was you know we’ve lived with these characters for a season now and so it’s like okay, what can we show – what new sides of this character can we show? I talked about how last year we had the tremendous luxury of going in and not really doing a pilot, just going in and knowing that we had 13 episodes. So we could be leisurely about when we were going to show certain sides of the character.

You know when you do a pilot you’re trying to sell the pilot, sell the character, sell this, sell that. So you’re trying to show them as much as you can. But because we didn’t do that I felt that – we all felt just sort of patient. Like okay, well I’m not going to show you anything in the first episode, how about that?

Huntington: Or I’m going to show you this little piece and I’m going to do the best job I can at this one bit, you know?

Witwer: This one little thing and then you know and later on you knew that there were going to be opportunities to show more and more of the character and so this year it’s – we’ve established the characters pretty thoroughly last year. And so this year it’s like okay well what new can we show you? And I feel pretty confident that all three of us you’re going to see – well not pretty confident, I’ve seen – we’ve all seen like nine episodes so far.

We do get to know these different sides of these characters in big ways. And the other big challenge this year is that we shot everything a little bit faster. We had less time to do stuff in for various reasons and so there were several things that I had to do that I was very – like Meaghan was saying like how am I going to do this, and I had one take to get it right. And so that was a little bit frightening but I think it all turned out all right, I’ve seen the stuff. And it’s like okay, well I think it works.

Rath: They edit you really generously

Huntington: Yeah, they’re very kind to you Sam, very kind.

Witwer: They are. It’s not what he’s doing on the set, it’s what the editors do to him. The others are – I was about to swear, the others are absolutely fantastic. They’re really, really good, I’ve seen them save me on countless occasions. And Huntington, forget about it, I mean there’s no performance on set, it’s all in the editing room.

Huntington: It is, it’s literally I show up and basically it’s gibberish. You’ll notice that I never say a line on camera. It’s just all back of my head. And then Sam – and Witwer has to go in and loop it for me. He has to go in and actually be like wow this is what I’m saying now.

Witwer: I do a really good Sam Huntington impression, yeah.

Huntington: Very important. I was really lucky to have Sam there to craft Josh, you know? Really, really lucky.

I’ve been a big fan of the show for the first episodes, absolutely treat and you’re all brilliant and your chemistry together is really unbeatable as witnessed on this call.

Rath: Thank you.

Huntington: I’ve got to tell you I love you already.

Witwer: Thank you very much.

So I’m wondering – you all get along so great, are we going to be seeing a lot of tension between the roommates this year and if so is it hard to keep a straight face when that happens?

Witwer: We will be seeing tension between the three in ways that we didn’t see in the first seasons, things get pretty serious and I’ll say this, it’s – the scenes feel really good when you do them. There’s some scenes that we have where we’re kind of at each other’s throats, I hope that doesn’t give too much away. And it feels really good in once sense to do because you know that you’re really cooking, like when it’s really working you feel great about that.

On the other hand I don’t like having to shout or be mean to Sammy or Meaghan, you know what I mean? That’s the tough part. Is you’re like oh, okay.

Rath: I like when you yell at me.

Witwer: But she loves it, she loves taking it.


Huntington: She’s an odd duck. But you know what, you said is it hard to keep a straight face, generally speaking you know when it’s a really, really rough moment for one of us it usually means it’s a rough moment for all of us. And we always you know like we love each other so we always generally respect when somebody needs a moment or somebody needs to gather themselves for a take. I usually give Meaghan a really hard time, but beyond that.

Rath: It’s unreal the hard time that he gives me. No consideration at all. For the most part you’re great, but then there’s the odd moment where you just – I’m trying to focus and you’re like fake vomiting on me.

Huntington: Yeah, it’s good times. Those are the nights that I sleep well, you know? But I just – oh, I lead a good day.

Witwer: Or I really got her today, I really made her feel bad about herself.

Huntington: Really tore her up, really made her feel shitty.

Rath: But yeah this season you will see a lot of tension between the three roommates because we all are on our own journey and trying to get ourselves out of these really desperate situations.

So for the reason that we’re doing completely different things when we do come together there’s a question of can we still relate to each other and how non-judgmental are we actually going to be towards each other? And that generates a lot of tension between us.

Huntington: And you know the temptation this season is just a beast. You know what I mean? Just a beast.

So you know as you continue to develop your characters into season two, I’m curious to know, you know is there anything you’ve been surprised to learn about yourselves along the way?

Witwer: You mean about ourselves as people or the characters?

About yourselves as people.

Huntington: I learned that I have a really deep belly button.

Witwer: Yes. Bizarre. So wait you’re saying either/or or which question?

No, you know about yourselves as people.

Rath: I think for me I feel like that’s the way I’ve grown as a person since I started acting and it’s a strange thing but every new experience you go through, every different set, every character I feel it forces you to find something in yourself that has been there. But you never knew it existed so you’re just trying to access different parts of your emotional life or you know things – feelings that you’ve suppressed over the years.

And it changes you, especially when you connect to a character so much and you love that character, it really forces you to question you know what would I do in this situation and what does this mean to me and how can I put this situation into my own words? And that’s for me how I mature and grow.

Witwer: Sammy you want to go next?

Huntington: Yeah, I mean I – you know listen, like we’ve all been kind of at this acting thing for quite some time and done a lot of different you know, different work, different jobs, everything presents different challenges. And you know it’s a fun gig but it’s really – it actually is kind of – it’s hard. And this year I’ve got to say like this year for some reason more than last year, and it’s probably because of a lot of the stuff that I was given to perform, I really felt like my range broadened.

I felt like I learned a lot of things about myself and about where I’m able to go emotionally and these are lessons that I’m going to take through the rest of my career. Because it’s going to be really short, let’s be honest, I mean no, but it’s weird that you know you can have – you know relatively large body of work and then there can be this one thing that just kind of changes everything.

And you learn kind of a lot of who you are as an actor and it’s been a joy. And I’ve been able to experience it with like you know these guys who are like my besties. So that’s…

Witwer: I think that I’ve learned – I think we’ve all three learned to trust ourselves a little bit more in terms of our creative instincts. I’ve learned that if the editors have it even in pieces, even if I was a little bit you know never got through a full take without blowing something, if the editors have it in pieces, fine, leave it alone, go to sleep, it’s fine, done.

And then the other thing that I’ve learned speaking of sleep is I am 40% nicer of a person if I’m well rested, 48%. I mean a lot of people are like 20% nicer if they are well rested, I am 48% nicer if I’m well rested.

Huntington: Literally almost 50% nicer.

Witwer: Almost 50%, I mean for me if I don’t have a lot of sleep I – my political and diplomatic skills are gone. I have no ability to say anything other than what I absolutely mean and I don’t care about how I said it.

Huntington: I think you give yourself a hard time about that.

Rath: I agree, you’re not that bad.

Huntington: You’re not that bad one, and two I think it was – you know you’re probably saying that because you got more sleep this year and it was a nicer experience as far as that goes.

Witwer: I think I was nicer this year.

Rath: Well I say you’re – I think you should give yourself a little more credit, I’d say you’re 42% nicer when you’re rested.

Huntington: Forty two, I’m with Rath, I’ll go 42.

Witwer: Got it, no she’s right, maybe it is 42, maybe I’ve been too hard on myself.

Rath: It’s a little more than 40%.

Huntington: Just a scosh.

Witwer: But not approaching 50 like we were thinking before.

Huntington: No.

Rath: No, no, no, God, give yourself a break.

Huntington: Round it down, you know what I mean?

Witwer: Yeah, round it down.


It’s been fun listening to you guys, you’re so funny. I was wondering if there are any interesting or favorite guest stars this coming season that you’d like to mention.

Witwer: Mark Pellegrino.

Rath: Yeah.

Huntington: There you go.

Rath: There are a lot of guest stars we can’t talk about.

Witwer: Yeah, unfortunately.

That’s what I figured. Any others?

Huntington: I can tell you Kristen Hager is one of my all time favorite people to work with ever and one of the greatest scene partners and I’m such a lucky guy. You know I get…

Rath: Yeah.

Witwer: Yeah, she’s really wonderful.

Huntington: Meaghan, Sam and Kristen, like I’m such a lucky guy.

Rath: Yeah, and you know I actually had a couple scenes with Kristen this year and I…

Huntington: Which was great by the way.

Rath: Which was cool and I mean I can’t really say much about it but I really felt like oh God, this is what I’ve been missing out on? Like she’s awesome, I really like her.

Witwer: Yeah, and Mark Pellegrino… I mean he built the show with us for God’s sake so it’s always wonderful to have him back. He’s just a tremendous actor, he’s a tremendous actor and a cunning warrior and he was a good friend.

Rath: Cunning warrior.

Was, huh?

Huntington: Cunning.

Rath: Not any more.

Witwer: Not any more, no, no, no, we’ve had a major falling out but we still play Xbox together because that’s just – you have to put your differences aside.

Huntington: Yeah, you break the boundaries for the Xbox.

Witwer: Exactly.

Okay and I wondered Sam Witwer why do you think that Aidan is – seems to me so much better than other vampires as far as trying to keep his dark side in check?

Witwer: Why is he trying to keep his dark side in check, well it’s interesting, again not knowing what other vampire shows are doing these days or vampire movies, I haven’t really watched them so I don’t know how new the idea of a vampire trying to become a good guys is.

But our take on it with the whole drug addiction analogy is I think really fresh and cool and that analogy, that metaphor is alive and well this season in a big, big way. And why is it, you know why is it cool, why – what’s better about it, yeah, I don’t know. I like the fact that this is generally – that all things considered if you take away the addiction this is a principled guy.

I like that about the character and I don’t know, I really don’t know. I couldn’t tell you.

The others all seem to either embrace it, really get into it or just you know go with it, whatever and he seems to want to fight against it.

Witwer: He wants to fight against it but this year you do see him embrace it a little bit. Kind of against his will, the thing that we have to remember is in the first season if he’s trying to kick the habit in a drug addiction sense well the first thing he’s got to do is stay away from his old drug buddies.

And this season he can’t so we start seeing older – we’re going to see an older version of Aidan this year and when I say older we’re going to see a worse version of him, we’re going to see some of his old character traits that he had over the past 200 years start to resurface.

We’re going to learn first hand why everyone seems to be afraid of this guy, why everyone’s – you know even in the first season Bishop gave him you know a wide berth and Marcus was wary of him and everyone was you know spoke so highly of him as this maniac, this really dangerous guy. And this year we kind of start learning why.

Huntington: You see the old Aidan.

Witwer: That’s right.

Huntington: As opposed to the moderned Aidan.

Witwer: Moderned Aidan.

Rath: Moderned Aidan.

Witwer: Yeah.


All right, so in addition to playing you know vampires, ghosts and werewolves we’ve had Sam and Sam have each played zombies, what is it that – you know what is it about monsters that’s resonating with the viewing public these days? I’m thinking you guys have had some time to maybe mull some of that over.

Huntington: Well I mean in all seriousness I think there’s a lot of people out there who are undead and I think that they really relate to you know the undead on our show and I think that’s what sets our show aside.

Witwer: You know what I think, I think that our society has – you know this has good points and bad points but we’ve – we’re a little bit more self aware I suppose as Americans…

Huntington: Oh you’re going deep.

Witwer: Yeah, I’m all check this out, about…

Huntington: You used the word America that was…

Witwer: Things – oh I’m going to go for America, about things that – check this out, check it out, are you sitting down Sam?

Huntington: I am literally.

Witwer: Okay cool. Now stand up and listen to me.

Huntington: And put your hand on your heart.

Witwer: No, I think that it’s – it might have something to do with the fact that our country, we’ve – it’s come to our attention that we’re not always just the sterling good guy, that there’s some gray area in there and that our heroes don’t always live up to our expectations. And it’s – you know it’s a little bit of a – you know the 70s was a cynical error – era, let’s go with era.

Huntington: It was an error.

Witwer: And the 70s was a cynical era but I don’t know that they had – that they felt as messed with in terms of the media machine and constantly feeling manipulated and pushed around and feeling like perhaps we’re pushed into participating in things that are maybe not the best things morally.

So maybe it’s that moral uncertainty that makes people lock in to all this dark stuff, you know looking – because what are zombies? Zombies are ourselves only completely corrupted and messed up.

What’s a vampire? Same type of theme, werewolf, ghost, I mean these are sort of the darker aspects of our nature and I wonder if it’s just – where the country has gone.

I mean you know for example you drive by Warner Brother’s studios which is just down the street from where I live and it used to be – there’s this building and they have this painting of all the DC comics superheroes all along the wall right? And it used to be Superman was in the middle, and he was flanked by Batman and Wonder Woman and then you’d have all the other people. Well now Batman’s in the center and Superman’s off to the side.

And you’re just like wow, when did that happen? When did you know…

Huntington: When Batman made a hundred gajillion dollars.

Witwer: Well it’s like that, but it’s like people are relating more to Batman than they are to Superman. It used to be – I mean if you went back to like the 40s or the 50s you think anyone like – Batman was second place to Superman.

Superman was the guy, like oh this is us, Superman is us, and now it’s like I think it might be Batman, we’re a little bit messed up, you know?

Rath: That’s a great answer Sam.

Witwer: How about that, it’s the same thing for example I don’t know if you’re a video game person but it’s one of the things that people have suggested as to why the Star Wars character and the force unleashed game Star Killer is popular. Because it’s like he’s messed up, he’s like Luke Skywalker but he’s messed up.

Huntington: I actually think that my answer about…

Sam you’ve given me a lot to think about.

Huntington: …more people being undead, I think that’s the…

Rath: He’s questioning his wife right now.

Yes I am.

Huntington: That was a very three dimensional answer. I liked that a lot. I listened to it, I almost put you on speaker phone so that my whole family could hear you.

Witwer: Everyone gather around the speaker phone, you need to listen to this.

Huntington: Listen to this, this is important.

Witwer: Do we have another question?


Huntington: Hello?

Rath: What’s happening?

Witwer: Did we lose him?


My question is basically since you guys have had a full season behind you, and playing these characters do you guys have a ton of input in terms of plot points or the direction of where each character is going to go.

Huntington: No.

Rath: No, not at all.

Witwer: Well with a caveat. If we get far enough behind yes we do.

Huntington: Yeah right.

Witwer: And I felt like I had quite a bit of input by the end but that was really – that wasn’t necessarily out of design it was more necessity. There were problems that needed to be solved and as – you know all three of us while we’re not responsible for the macro shape of the show, we do at this point, I think we can safely say we know our characters better than anyone.

So there was for me, I can’t speak for Sammy and Meaghan but there was for me a little bit of diving in and helping solve certain problems and saying hey, listen, here’s what Aidan would do, you know?

Huntington: Yeah, WWAD?

Witwer: That’s right.

Huntington: Yeah, I mean there were moments that you’re like you know you have you know very minimal but a certain amount of contact with our writers, the show runners and so you know if you have a question or something you can always ask or if you have a concern sometimes it gets listened to.

But yeah, I mean generally speaking they make the – Sam said it right, you know on a macro level they kind of – they pilot the ship.

Witwer: They do and they do a really good job of coming up with really interesting turns and twists.

Huntington: Yeah.

Rath: Definitely.

Okay and my other question was really quickly I guess how long did it take you guys to shoot this season, and like how long – how many hour days did you have and stuff like that?

Rath: It took about five months, we started in July and finished in December. And the days can go pretty long, you know sometimes 14, 15 hours depending on the day, depending what point we are in the schedule, how behind we are?

Witwer: Your occasional 18, 19 hour they throw in. But there were more of those 18, 19 hour days last year than there were this year.

Rath: Definitely.

Huntington: And also consecutively last year, that was what was weird, that’s what really took – you know you’d have a beastly three days and it would just take it out of you for like three weeks, you know? That kind of was the unfortunate thing about the end of last season is it was just hellish you know?

How much – being that your characters are all going to be playing a lot apart from one another how much will the hospital come into play, that’s where three of the four characters work but is it going to be kind of like that home away from home as it was in the first season?

Huntington: You’ll – the hospital is pivotal in certain – in things that happen in the hospital are pivotal and kind of spring boards for a lot of stuff that happens in the season but yeah, actually you kind of definitely touch on something that’s true in that we don’t – it’s not like our home away from home this season like it was last year.

And I think a lot of that actually also is because you know each of us are having our individual paths so there’s less of us actually meeting up at the hospital you know? Would you guys say that’s true?

Witwer: Yeah, I think that’s true.

Rath: I feel like I definitely spend more time in the hospital this year.

Huntington: You do, for sure.

Rath: But it’s not – yeah, I wouldn’t say that it was a home away from home, I think it’s just a….

Huntington: And it’s in a different regard too, it’s…

Rath: Yeah, totally, it’s just – it’s kind of like just as the house is a huge part of the show, so is the hospital, just kind of a different character.

Huntington: To be honest, and Sam and I actually talked a lot about this this season because you know we actually feel kind of differently about it but I could lose the hospital as a location altogether.

Witwer: Whereas I love it. I think it’s really great.

Huntington: Yep. I like it in theory, like I like the idea that we can go there and it’s like a – you know it serves as a lot of different sets and it’s -you know it make sense for the characters but logistically I’m not into it for some weird reason, I don’t really like it.

Witwer: I think it’s because they always have you cleaning up you know vomit and for me, you know I’m carrying something somewhere.

Huntington: That’s what it is. That’s it.

Witwer: Somehow Aidan ditches all the most unpleasant stuff like bedpans, he just doesn’t do it. He’s like you know if I ditch it someone else will do it.

Huntington: That’s right.


That’s great, and then could you talk a little bit about Dichen’s… the addition of Dichen [Lachman] on the show as well as the mother character?

Witwer: Yeah I – how much – I’m trying to think of how much can I say without ruining too much. We go into some vampire authority matters and there are vampires that are much, much older than Aidan or even Bishop.

And Dichen kind of represents – because I was talking earlier about how we learn about older Aidan, we learn about how he was rather than how he is and Dichen represents a lot of that in this seasons for Aidan. She represents a lot of what he wanted, a lot of who he wanted to be and she’s thrown back into the mix and the problem is that Aidan is now a different guy so we learn how – it’s kind of like – how do I put it, it’s like imagine that you had a really close relationship with someone back in high school and then you link up with them later.

It’s not exactly the same as it was because you’ve both changed – that type of thing.

I touched base with [Meaghan] at Halloween for a couple of quotes about the upcoming season. Do you remember this Meaghan, you probably don’t even remember it.

Rath: Yeah, of course I remember.

Okay so one of the things you told me, this is kind of a follow up to that is we know it’s going to be a darker season. And one of your one liners to me was ‘Being Human Two, once you go black you never go back.’ So that’s who you’re working with guys, anyway so does that whole black thing refer to the darkness, is that what you were trying to…

Huntington: No, she was talking racially. She’s a racist.

Rath: Speaking purely racially. Yeah, I mean it’s pretty much it, there’s the darkness of the season is kind of a prominent theme and it’s really just in reference to A, my stupidity and B, just the fact that you know once you – for anyone once you dabble in something dark that’s often (unintelligible) and sort of it consumes your consciousness, it’s hard to remove yourself from it.

All right, yeah, I didn’t really have the context for that so I was just trying to figure out what that meant. Also…

Huntington: I love that answer.

Moving right along…

Witwer: No it’s true, we do see – it’s like in life right, you… let’s say there’s something you go – you know I really shouldn’t eat that candy bar or something and then you eat it and you’re like you know I feel guilty but I’m going to let myself off the hook for this and then it’s easier to eat the next delicious candy bar.

It’s kind of like the same thing. You know you do something wrong, you feel bad but then it’s like okay do you keep punishing yourself or do you let yourself off the hook? Well a lot of people say well you should let yourself, you know stop punishing yourself, can’t keep doing that to yourself. Yeah but if you let yourself off the hook too easily then it becomes easier to do something like that again or something worse.

And we see that happen in all three of the characters this year.

Yes, it’s a slippery slope. Also Meaghan have you found a way to update Sally’s look at all, have you pitched something to the producers yet?

Huntington: She wears a really cute barrette this year.

Rath: Well here’s the thing, in season two we do get to see Sally in some different outfits and I think you know in the trailers of the show the promos that they’ve released you do see Sally in a couple different things.

Huntington: Including her birthday suit, oh yeah.

Rath: That’s true, there is some nudity.

Huntington: Finally some female nudity on the show.

Rath: The producers are like – they’re like you know you can change your outfit, here’s the deal, you can change, you can get out of those clothes but that’s it. I’m not allowed to get into anything else. So there’s a little bit of that. But this possession door that Sally’s opened has really allowed me to change it up a little bit which has been nice, yeah.

But the leggings stay, I hate to break it to you.

The sweater, what about the sweater?

Rath: The sweater stays, it’s the uniform.

Huntington: It’s her rainy day sweater.

Rath: My rainy day sweater. You’re thinking of the same thing as me aren’t you.

Huntington: Yep, yep.

I’ve got something for Witwer real quick. Witwer you’ve had – you guys have all had pretty extensive television experience but you’ve probably had more than anybody. And you go back to Syfy and the days when it was the Syfy Channel back on Battlestar Galactica.

Witwer: Yes.

Have you noticed any difference now that you guys – the channel’s rebranded to Syfy?

Huntington: That’s a great question.

Witwer: Wow, that is a really great question. I’ve – you know…

You see both sides of the coin here, see?

Witwer: Yeah, it’s interesting. In terms of how the branding has changed, the marketing for everything, I mean I think that’s something everyone can see. There – all I really know is that they want to – I’m trying to think like what can I say that’s beyond – that’s like within – but how can I not pull something out of my ass and not look like a dick here?

Basically like…

Here’s a question, was it really different? I mean like was it…

Witwer: No, I mean from the production side not really, no. I mean in fact one of the producers on the Syfy side that is working with us worked on Battlestar Galactica. So it’s you know some of the people are around, so that’s not really different.

I will say that it’s – for example okay networks, they have to ask sometimes shows to do things that creatively you know they may not be the most satisfying things. But they have very legitimate reasons for asking, for example on Battlestar Galactica’s first episode, 33, not the miniseries but the first episode which is where I showed up for the first time, there’s this whole plot line where there’s a ship called the Olympic Carrier that has taken off and there’s no – it’s radio silence and it’s hurtling toward Galactica and no one can get a hold of anyone on that ship. And then later you know we fly by the ship, we don’t see anyone in the windows and we detect a nuke on board so we shoot down the Olympic Carrier.

Well the way that we shot that wasn’t like that at all. The way that we shot it was the Olympic Carrier, there was no nuke on board and when we flew by we saw thousands of people in those windows, people that by the way we shot that. And so the whole thing was there’s a ship flying toward Galactica, it’s broken radio silence, it’s not answer the radios, what do we do? And it was basically it was a thinly veiled 9/11 metaphor.

There’s a plane heading for – you know it looks like it might be heading for a building, do we shoot it down? Maybe they’re just scared, maybe they’re going to veer off, we don’t really know. Okay shoot it down. You know that was the whole idea and Syfy was like well okay, you’ve got to make it a little bit more you know put a nuke on board and make it a little bit more clear cut.

Now someone might say well that’s a terrible decision creatively but then you’re like yeah, but they do have a point, 9/11 at that point was only like two or three years after. Battlestar was like three or four years after 9/11. It was still pretty fresh in people’s minds and Syfy had the concern of like look, let’s not get this risky just yet, you know let’s not scare the audience away. Now mind you I’m kind of a dick and I’d be like well they should – you know it’s creative integrity, blah, blah.

But I get where they’re coming from, right? So the good news is because Ron Moore and everyone was reasonable with Syfy and they’re like yeah, okay fine, we’ll work with you and we’ll do this and we’ll change it so that it reflects your notes.

Then Syfy was reasonable with them and they won a lot of battles where they did some stuff that was way more hard hitting than what I’m telling you right now. And it’s the same thing on this show, it’s – there are certain battles that it’s like okay, they want this and okay I get why they want it because they don’t want it to be too dark and blah, blah, blah and this and that.

But the good news is that when you follow that stuff, generally they – you know because they want to see some of the same stuff that we’re talking about, it’s just that they have concerns for logistical reasons. So you know you work with them, they work with you and then next thing you know you do something really shocking on television. It’s just that you know they’re wise to say that it shouldn’t be shocking every episode. I mean you can’t burn out your audience because it’s so dark, dark, dark.


Huntington: You’re right like although this season like I’ve got to say like I’m – I was shocked at some of the stuff that we shot. Some of the stuff we shot, like you know we – it really like is very, very dark as far as like emotionally dark and you know you can’t really believe the characters are doing what they’re doing at certain times. I’m thinking of a couple instances where you did things that are like holy shit, really? Okay, let’s do it, like here it is.

Witwer: It’s true, you know what’s funny is I guess I’m referring to…

Huntington: And Meaghan you too.

Rath: Yep.

Witwer: They – I’m considered – yeah absolutely Meaghan. But you know like there’s an episode that I just did ADR for mid season where they blunted a dramatic point a little bit where you know they made – they cut it in such a way that it was less dark than what we had shot. And you know I was upset about that until I realized I’m like yeah, but then two episodes later the most horrific thing ever, you know just that we’ve never done on the show happens.

So it’s like you know maybe they’re right, maybe it shouldn’t just be non-stop driving the dark point home because we’re going to get there, you know? It’s…

Huntington: And knowing you guys are – you know ladies and gentlemen who work at Syfy and are basically our bosses and who really call the creative shots, they’re wonderful people, smart, very intelligent people.

And so that’s kind of cool, you know you kind of – you know these executives, you have a relationship, you have almost – not almost, a friendship with these people. And so you kind of trust their guidance and you know shit, season one was awesome you know, and dark in places.

I mean yeah, in season one you guys broke the ultimate taboo, you know you actually killed a kid.

Huntington: Killed a kid.


Witwer: Syfy channel kills a lot of children, you know from back in the Battlestar days to even now, Syfy 17, Children 3, you know? The score doesn’t lie.

Huntington: And at least the children won three of them, you know what I mean?

Witwer: No, they didn’t win three, but like you know, no.

Huntington: The ratio’s way off.

Well at least the place a kid can always get a job for a couple weeks anyway.

We know that in casting Aidan was supposed to be like the super sexy vampire and Josh was supposed to be the comic relief. How do you guys deal with the fact that Josh is totally sexier than Aidan?

Huntington: Oh God, it’s hard for me. I can tell you right now that will be the one – you are the one person who feels that way and I think you should come over tonight for dinner.

Witwer: See now my thing is this, they had a lot of hopes for the Aidan character and only one or two out of the 15 have they actually achieved having hired me. So it’s nothing – this is not anything new in terms of the disappointment about the Aidan character. You know I mean I think it’s safe to say it’s pretty much a failure of a character. So it’s – this is…

Huntington: In the sexy regard.

Witwer: No, not just the sexy regard, but dramatically you know especially dramatically. Like the guy doesn’t necessarily pull his weight.

Rath: He’s a dud.

Witwer: Well look, every show has a dud character. My thing is they pay me the same amount whether the character’s a dud or really works so for me it’s a win-win.

It’s easier. Well it’s a lose-win actually, it’s a lose in that I’m not doing good work, win I’m getting paid to not do good work.

And we just have one quick follow up. Why – can you tell us why vampires are such messy eaters?

Witwer: Okay, I’ve asked the same damned question, I’m like look, he’s eating. Why is it all over my chest, come on.

We know that you guys drink blood, I mean we don’t need to see…

Huntington: It’s like the vampire equivalent of a Carl’s Jr. commercial.

Witwer: That’s true, I have actually on a few occasions been able to clean it up like you know they wanted to have blood all over the place, I’m like okay guys, he has been doing this for 200 years, he’s better at it than you guys are leading on.

So no, it’s – he’s eating, it’s in here, it’s by the mouth, and maybe just a little bit on the lips and they agree with that. But one thing I will say is that if someone loses their mind, if Aidan gets – you know has been starving for a long time and then starts going for it and starts getting super high, then I get the blood getting everywhere.

But that’s our mythology.

Rath: It’s like a drunkard and their beer.

Witwer: What’s that?

Rath: That’s like a drunk person spilling their beer all over the place.

Huntington: That’s exactly right.

Witwer: It’s a drunk person spilling their beer, basically.

Huntington: Are you making fun of me?

We would never make fun of you Sammy, we love you very much. You are the best thing in Dylan Dog.

Huntington: Oh thank you, honestly I’m blushing, thank you so much.

Rath: He’s a (unintelligible) celebrity.

Huntington: What’s that?

How does it feel to be such a big Twitter celebrity? You tweet all the time.

Huntington: I do, Meaghan is nipping at my heels, she’s a huge…

Rath: Well these days, these days I’ve been tweeting a little more than you.

Huntington: You tweet a lot.

Rath: I’ve been slacking in the last couple days.

Huntington: I love it, I’ve got to say like I like – I discovered Twitter, when was it that – Meg you and I joined at like the same time, when was that? That was like…

Rath: Yeah I think it was right after the premiere of the first episode.

Huntington: Sure, okay season one, and I love it, like I absolutely love it. I love my followers, like I love hearing all their comments and you know hearing about their days. And I just – I love it, I think it’s a really cool community, I’m really into it. And I like being able to you know when people write me back and they say oh that just made me smile or that just put a smile on my face, I like that.

That’s why I’m actor, so like why not do that on a kind of a smaller scale, it’s cool, you know? And I feel like I have a relationship with a lot of my followers so it’s neat.

Rath: Yeah.

Hey, so we heard a little bit about Aidan’s journey this season and what we have to look forward to from him, what about Josh and Sally, what kind of a journey are your characters on?

Rath: You go ahead, you start.

Huntington: Okay, well Josh you know we pick up the second season, it’s three weeks after the end of the first season, so Josh has unknowingly scratched Nora and Nora is keeping it from him.

I don’t know if you’ve watched the first two episodes, did you watch them?


Huntington: Okay, so you know what happens.

I do, but I want them in your words.

Huntington: Right, so once again to reiterate something that Bill Brennan had said at the beginning of the phone call like well we can talk about this but don’t print it until after it airs.

But yeah, so Josh you know unknowingly scratched Nora, she’s keeping it from him and so at the end of the first episode they both turn into werewolves and Josh finds out. And you know he was on a path to go back to medical school and that basically all comes screeching to a halt when he finds out that Nora’s a werewolf and his new trajectory becomes to try and find a cure for her.

And so through doing that you know it changes his relationship with Nora drastically and Nora takes the news of being a wolf and the physiology of being a wolf very differently than Josh did. And so it’s – you know the theme for the season is temptation is a beast but for Josh really it’s trying to keep the people he loves away from temptation of others and then himself being tempted.

And it has very unfortunate results, so there you go.

Rath: Yeah and for Sally it’s basically she’s dealing with when we first see her in season two… she’s dealing with the consequences of missing her door at the end of season one and what that means for her.

She’s acquired these new powers of being able to very briefly touch things which was a result of missing the door they think and she meets some new supernatural beings that kind of introduce her to different powers and one being possession which takes her down a very dark path, because it is very addictive. And really her trajectory of the season is trying to fight or give in to this temptation, to this new sort of vice that she’s discovered and what that brings to her and how that breaks her down.

Being Human was originally a British show, Being Human UK so I was wondering if any of you have watched it and do you feel this coming season is a chance to break away from the original because I do know that the first season very closely matched the first season of Being Human UK.

Witwer: Well this season – sorry, Meaghan you want to go?

Rath: No, go ahead.

Witwer: we as actors we didn’t watch the British series when we were shooting our first season because we wanted to do our own thing. We wanted to make sure that ours was its own animal. And then afterward we watched it. We watched everything. I love their show and I truly dig on it and I got Sammy and Meaghan started by buying them the box sets for season one and they watched it since then, watched more of it since then.

And you know we’re all into it, but the writers, our writers hate it. No just kidding. Our writers, no our writers for the same reason that we avoided watching season one, they’ve avoided watching season two because they want season two to be its own animal. So any – there is a little bit of cross over here and there in terms of things happening sometimes in similar ways. But it’s really coincidental considering our writers didn’t even know. So it’s interesting, whenever something would happen that was similar I’d read it in the script and kind of laugh.

Because they have no idea, but you know it’s for the most part extremely different.

Okay so do you think then this difference will stop the ongoing comparisons between the two shows because right now there’s currently a lot of online talk about which version is better.

Witwer: No, it won’t stop it.

Rath: I don’t think it will stop, no, because it is the – founded on the same situations, they’re both the same show. But I mean that’s okay with me, I don’t mind that because I also like Sam was saying I’m a huge fan of the British one.

And I’m very positive in the second season that it does differ in a huge way. And you know and I’m – we’re the same family but different kind of – we’re different cultures and I don’t know, I’m happy to be associated with them and I’m excited for the day that we actually meet.

Huntington: Yeah me too, I really want to meet them. I think also we’d probably be singing a different tune if it was more negative. To be honest I think they’ve been so kind to us, you know primarily. The people who are fans of the BBC series or were first fans of the BBC series have really embraced our show and I think if they were really hating on it we’d be ready for them to be like uh guys, you know what we are our own thing.

And like listen, we embrace that, the fact that this season we are like Sam said like there’s some small cross overs but for the most part we are – and they are unintentional. We are our own beast. And – but yeah, I think we’d be a lot more eager to have the comparisons cease if they were negative comparisons. Right?

Witwer: No, absolutely. I think that you know it’s – people have their preferences and it isn’t – for example if someone says hey I like the British version better, I’m not going to sit there and go whoa you’re wrong. I’ll be like no, I see why, it’s different, there are different things. Personally when I watched the two shows, when I was watching you know just going through theirs and watching our season one versus their season one.

And I was – you know I was kind of torn because I’d see stuff and I’d go oh you know they really nailed that moment in a way that we didn’t’. They – yeah, that’s better. Oh I like this better about theirs, and then I’d see other stuff and go oh but you know what, I like ours better on this, or we had a better take on this, and you know so I personally I mean considering I’m so close to it I could never say which is objectively better.

And frankly I don’t know that most people could objectively say that, I think it’s more of a taste thing.

Huntington: I think one of the reasons is because you watch them at the exact same time on two different televisions.

Witwer: Very strange, it was like stereo but I found a way to actually lock one of my eyes on one television and one of my eyes on the other.

Huntington: Is that why you look like some kind of platypus this year, it’s bizarre.

Witwer: I look the guy from Young Frankenstein, I look like Igor.

Huntington: That’s exactly right.

Witwer: But – and that’s also why I was vomiting that day because it really had…

Huntington: A really negative effect physically.

Witwer: Yeah.

Huntington: Sorry, are you still there?

Thank you.

Huntington: Thank you guys all so much and sorry if we missed any questions if there’s any people out there who were waiting, sorry.

Rath: Just tweet us, we’ll answer them.

Huntington: Yeah there you go.